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djfatboyrob

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Hi all.
My T8 has a total capacity of 5.35GB.
My apps are taking up 2.8GB of this and 'misc' is using 1.38GB.
Concerned that I only have 2.14GB available, is there a way to expand the capacity without deleting anything?

Why does 'misc' use up so much storage?

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David Savage

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Hi, the mics files is a pain its mostly taken up by the wizard after you run it. Also updates too, if you want you can go to the ES file Explorer and on the left click on Tools and run the SD card analyser and it will show where its taken up. Make sure you turn on hiden files there...Also above there's Local expand the menu and go to downloads or device and delete your down loads and empty the recycle bin aswell.
Try clearing cache too and next time you run the wizard run the Modded or None Modded confluence one as this doesn't use as much memory as the Kodi one. Delete un-used apps, check the ones 1st in droidbox store just incase you want to download them in the future.
Also you could use an SD card to expand your memory too.
 
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Sorry I been busy fixing my box, normally you go to ES file explorer and here go to Local and apps then if you click on one it should give you that option.
Normally in android devices you go to setting, more setting then apps and some apps give you this option to move them to SD card.
If none of these work then sorry....see what SilentlyScreaming has to say.
Hope you feel a little better now ...
 
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Before DroidBOX came into existence, some of us wondered the same thing about a couple of Android devices we owned. Once a customer asked, we decided it was time to check exactly what caused this.

The explanation below refers to the original X7 model and one specific firmware, however the theory (but not necessarily specific numbers or partition names) still holds true for all Android devices.

Android_Storage_Menu_1_Internal_Storage.jpg


Open the list of all installed Android applications, and click on Settings. If you don't see an interface similar to that found in these screenshots, then click on the last tab and press the More or Advanced Settings button. Scroll down the screen if needed and click onto the Storage sub-menu.

If you now scroll down the screen which displays the storage details, you should several sections, covering the internal storage, NAND flash, external (micro)SD card and any USB device attaxched. In this example, the NAND Flash is just under 4Gb. This, combined with internal storage and the space taken up by the operating system itself, takes you to a total of 8Gb.

The NAND area - (the /mnt/sdcard directory in this example) uses the NAND section of the onboard storage. This means you have just under 4Gb of extra space where you can store apps, videos, music, books, pictures etc. Please note that if you ever flash a new firmware, you will need to backup those files that you copied there, onto an external device (or real life external microSD card) as that area is normally wiped by firmware upgrades.

Android_Storage_Menu_2_NAND_Flash.jpg


Android_Storage_Menu_3_SD_USB.jpg


To move apps from the internal storage area to the "internal" SDCard areas (again, just to clarify, SDCard is still internal memory, the physical card you plug in is mapped to /mnt/extsd in this example) you go to Settings, Apps, and then click on the app you want to move. There should be a "Move to SD card" button there (or "Move to device" button if the app is already in the SDCard directory). Click it and wait a short while, and the app will have been moved.
However, some apps can not be moved, and it generally considered wise to leave apps that are required immediately upon booting the machine in Internal Storage/"device" memory. This advice may only be relevant on devices (Gingerbread or earlier version of Android use this approach more often) that use a physical microSD card for the SDCard directory, as it can take some seconds after booting has completed before the external SD card is mounted, and therefore the data accessible, this has not been properly tested by us.

On our devices, you will normally find that the XBMC app takes up the largest amount of space. This is because when you import your videos/songs/other media into its library, it downloads cover art, actors'/film crews'/artists' information and descriptions for each file. So, if you import 1 film and 10 songs you will download and store (for example) 2Mb of metadata. If you import 200 films and 400 songs, you download and store (another made up example) 300Mb of metadata.

With your external (micro)SD card, you can place any content you like on it, apart from apps, and be aware that firmware upgrades will not touch this area.

The naming convention for paths, used by Android, can be a little confusing, and different devices approach the issues of splitting and directory pointing differently. Because a total of 6Gb is considered large enough for installing apps on, the external microSD card is not used on the X7 for apps. The /mnt/sdcard vs /mnt/extsd confusing situation arose because very early devices often did not have a slot for an external memory card, and to ensure backwards compatibility, the naming convention was adhered to.

I hope this answers your question, and reassures you that we have not hidden away any memory from you, or used inaccurate descriptions in our listings/box information.

2015 Edit
Other devices and firmwares do indeed use different naming conventions. Please see http://www.droidboxforums.com/posts/8792/ for details. A rough copy and paste is included below in case the forum URL changes.

Dave
 

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Sorry it took so long to get here. I've not been in the forums much (we've had a couple of members of staff online, and of course David helping out so much) for a while now, but back and trying to catch up with each area of the forum. Down to T8 and T8-S and then another sweep of all recent posts. Looking forward to "live" posting again!
The text above from https://droidbox.co.uk/blog/faq-2/the-advert-stated-4-or-816gb-rom-i-see-a-lot-less-why/ does indeed cover some of the background info.

In terms of moving apps to an SD card, not in the sense it used to be done.
With KitKat Android firmwares, you could try (you might want to install the KK SD Card patch (it might have been https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix&hl=en_GB ?) if something like Link2SD didn't work - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD&hl=en_GB ). You could also try symlinking if you're happy dropping to the terminal.

Sorry, phonecalls in the midst of responding here, that last sentence isn't constructed right.
Try the Link2SD app, if it doesn't work try the patch, then link2sd again. If that doesn't help, or if you're prefer manually entering commands, you could try symlink. Some of the process is described here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442729
 
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